{"id":200019,"date":"2026-10-22T10:29:42","date_gmt":"2026-10-22T08:29:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/?p=200019"},"modified":"2026-10-22T10:50:08","modified_gmt":"2026-10-22T08:50:08","slug":"i-love-hobbies-marina-khismatullina-beklimt-bergen-en-doorbreekt-stereotypen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2026\/10\/22\/i-love-hobbies-marina-khismatullina-beklimt-bergen-en-doorbreekt-stereotypen\/","title":{"rendered":"I love hobbies:\u00a0Marina Khismatullina climbs mountains and breaks stereotypes"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-intro-font-size\">What do students and staff do once they put their books aside? 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I also run a lot to train my stamina\u201d, the Russian mathematician says.<br><br>Alpinism is the skill of climbing a mountain. It\u2019s a combination of hiking to the foot of a summit and climbing the steep rocks to reach the summit. \u201cIt\u2019s very technical. And you need a lot of endurance.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong>No thoughts<\/strong><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThe mountain is my calm place\u201d, explains Marina. She reminisces how she felt during a trip to the Kilimanjaro, with 5895 meters the highest mountain of Africa: \u201cI didn\u2019t think about work. About the renovation I needed to do. About my midlife crisis. I only though about primal things: when\u2019s the next stop, what can I eat and am I getting wet or not.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong><strong>Shedding stereoypes<\/strong><\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI did not really have hobbies until I was in my thirties. I only identified myself with work. I never considered myself a sporty person.\u201d In Russia, she explains, people are often put into boxes. \u201cIf you\u2019re smart, you\u2019re only smart. If you\u2019re a woman, you\u2019re only a woman.\u201d Marina was projecting a lot of these cultural stereotypes on herself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A few years ago, Marina experienced a crisis\u2019 as she calls it. She went to psychotherapy and learned to define herself by more than just her work. \u201cIt was very painful. I had to relearn a lot about myself.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Marina hopes to pass on her lessons to her students. She is, for example, quite active on social media: \u201cI post a lot of reels and stories, mostly about my adventures. With my videos I want to show that you can be anything you want. You can be a woman in a male dominated field. You can boulder with painted nails. 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