{"id":157200,"date":"2023-07-06T11:49:46","date_gmt":"2023-07-06T09:49:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/?p=157200"},"modified":"2026-02-10T16:44:10","modified_gmt":"2026-02-10T15:44:10","slug":"farewell-interview-with-inge-hutter-theres-a-lot-of-overlap-between-my-personal-idealism-and-what-iss-does","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2023\/07\/06\/farewell-interview-with-inge-hutter-theres-a-lot-of-overlap-between-my-personal-idealism-and-what-iss-does\/","title":{"rendered":"Farewell interview with Inge Hutter: \u2018There\u2019s a lot of overlap between my personal idealism and what ISS does\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After two terms in office, Inge Hutter, rector of the International Institute of Social Studies (ISS), will step down on 1 August. The day after her farewell speech, she took time to reflect. \u201cI\u2019ve become calmer and wiser.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1064\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/07\/06113331\/Inge-Hutter-juni-2023-afscheid-ISS-foto1_3000_Ronald-van-den-Heerik-scaled-1-1600x1064.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139335\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-157199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/07\/06113331\/Inge-Hutter-juni-2023-afscheid-ISS-foto1_3000_Ronald-van-den-Heerik-scaled-1-1600x1064.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139335 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/07\/06113331\/Inge-Hutter-juni-2023-afscheid-ISS-foto1_3000_Ronald-van-den-Heerik-scaled-1-875x582.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139335 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/07\/06113331\/Inge-Hutter-juni-2023-afscheid-ISS-foto1_3000_Ronald-van-den-Heerik-scaled-1-300x200.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139335 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/07\/06113331\/Inge-Hutter-juni-2023-afscheid-ISS-foto1_3000_Ronald-van-den-Heerik-scaled-1-1280x852.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139335 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/07\/06113331\/Inge-Hutter-juni-2023-afscheid-ISS-foto1_3000_Ronald-van-den-Heerik-scaled-1-1536x1022.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139335 1536w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/07\/06113331\/Inge-Hutter-juni-2023-afscheid-ISS-foto1_3000_Ronald-van-den-Heerik-scaled-1-2048x1362.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139335 2048w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/07\/06113331\/Inge-Hutter-juni-2023-afscheid-ISS-foto1_3000_Ronald-van-den-Heerik-scaled-1-150x100.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139335 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/07\/06113331\/Inge-Hutter-juni-2023-afscheid-ISS-foto1_3000_Ronald-van-den-Heerik-scaled-1-225x150.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139335 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><p><span>Inge Hutter on the social sofa in front of the ISS building. \n<\/span><\/p> <p data-component=\"image-credits\" class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-2 items-center text-base\">\n\t<span aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\">\n<path d=\"M19.5 5.25H16.9012L15.6234 3.33375C15.555 3.23114 15.4623 3.147 15.3535 3.08879C15.2448 3.03057 15.1233 3.00007 15 3H9C8.87665 3.00007 8.75522 3.03057 8.64648 3.08879C8.53773 3.147 8.44502 3.23114 8.37656 3.33375L7.09781 5.25H4.5C3.90326 5.25 3.33097 5.48705 2.90901 5.90901C2.48705 6.33097 2.25 6.90326 2.25 7.5V18C2.25 18.5967 2.48705 19.169 2.90901 19.591C3.33097 20.0129 3.90326 20.25 4.5 20.25H19.5C20.0967 20.25 20.669 20.0129 21.091 19.591C21.5129 19.169 21.75 18.5967 21.75 18V7.5C21.75 6.90326 21.5129 6.33097 21.091 5.90901C20.669 5.48705 20.0967 5.25 19.5 5.25ZM15.375 12.375C15.375 13.0425 15.1771 13.695 14.8062 14.25C14.4354 14.8051 13.9083 15.2376 13.2916 15.4931C12.6749 15.7485 11.9963 15.8154 11.3416 15.6852C10.6869 15.5549 10.0855 15.2335 9.61351 14.7615C9.14151 14.2895 8.82007 13.6881 8.68985 13.0334C8.55962 12.3787 8.62646 11.7001 8.88191 11.0834C9.13735 10.4667 9.56993 9.93964 10.125 9.56879C10.68 9.19794 11.3325 9 12 9C12.8951 9 13.7535 9.35558 14.3865 9.98851C15.0194 10.6214 15.375 11.4799 15.375 12.375Z\" fill=\"currentColor\"\/>\n<\/svg>\n<\/span>\n\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Image by:<\/span>\n\n\t\t\t<span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/persons\/ronald-van-den-heerik\/\" class=\"underline hocus:no-underline decoration-1 underline-offset-2\">Ronald van den Heerik<\/a>\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure><p><strong>How are you doing? Have you had a chance to recover from the ceremony?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m still overwhelmed by everything that was done, said and shared yesterday. It was a beautiful and heartfelt ceremony. After eight years, it\u2019s really special to hear both the Executive Board and ISS management and colleagues say that I\u2019ve done a good job.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you think you did well?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think the most important thing is the integration of the institute into Erasmus University Rotterdam. I only now realise that this integration was anything but easy. When I was hired in 2015, ISS had only been part of the university for six years, after being an independent institute for 57 years. When I started, ISS was in the final stages of a reorganisation that had led to a lot of pain and frustration. It was a challenge, but at the same time it was essential for further integration.\u201d<\/p>\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/featured-text\" class=\"md:mt-6 p-4 md:p-6 lg:p-8 bg-sand-300 theme-sand:bg-white theme-violet:bg-white theme-mocha:bg-white wysiwyg *:last:mb-0!\" >\n\t\t<p>Inge Hutter (1959) served as Rector of the International Institute of Social Studies (ISS) from 1 August 2015. Prior to that, she was Professor of Demography and Dean of the Faculty of Spatial Sciences at the University of Groningen.<\/p>\n<p>After completing her rectorship, she will continue to work as a professor at ISS. She is taking a one-year sabbatical and will also stay on as academic lead for Erasmian Values in relation to leadership and organisational culture. She will explore ways in which Erasmian values can take shape and be supported within the university\u2019s transformation towards creating more positive social impact.<\/p>\n\n\t<\/div>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"> More on tackling undesirable behaviour at ISS<\/h2><ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2022\/03\/24\/iss-to-professionalise-its-handling-of-transgressive-behaviour-following-protest\/\">ISS to professionalise its handling of transgressive behaviour following protest<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2022\/09\/15\/iss-students-receive-mandatory-training-sessions-on-transgressive-behaviour\/\">ISS students receive mandatory training sessions on transgressive behaviour<\/a><\/li><\/ul><p><strong>You also experienced times of crisis, such as the student protest about undesirable behaviour in February 2022. Students claimed that the institute failed to protect them. Looking back on this, what are your thoughts?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe protest started as an individual complaint about transgressive behaviour between students. We dealt with that in a confidential procedure. During the protest, students expressed that the complaints procedures weren\u2019t adequate. They had a point: the procedures had indeed become sloppy due to the lockdowns during the pandemic. While students had been attending in-person lectures since September 2021, we were still working from home, which meant that certain things fell through the cracks.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was tough, because we were a pioneer in addressing problems related to unwanted behaviour. But, partly because of this protest, we\u2019ve now improved and professionalised the procedures. I\u2019m glad we took immediate action at that time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Have students become more vocal about unwanted behaviour?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cYes, they have and I think that\u2019s a very good thing. When I was young, staying silent about transgressive behaviour was the norm. This generation doesn\u2019t put up with such behaviour, and rightly so, because everyone has the right to a safe work and study environment.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/posts-list\" >\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"space-y-6 md:space-y-8\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"text-lg md:text-xl\">Read more<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"grid items-strecth grid-cols-1 gap-2 md:gap-4 lg:gap-8\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"@container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post-small\" class=\"block-theme-sand  relative flex h-full bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\ttheme-mocha:bg-white! theme-violet:bg-white! theme-sand:bg-white!\n\tflex-row gap-4 @md:gap-8 p-4 @md:p-6\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"image:w-full image:aspect-square image:object-cover shrink-0 size-17.5 @sm:size-21.25 @md:size-30 @lg:size-40\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"345\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/02\/25174957\/20220225_123133-1.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139276\" class=\"attachment-square_lg size-square_lg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/02\/25174957\/20220225_123133-1.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139276 2000w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/02\/25174957\/20220225_123133-1-875x656.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139276 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/02\/25174957\/20220225_123133-1-1600x1200.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139276 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/02\/25174957\/20220225_123133-1-300x225.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139276 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/02\/25174957\/20220225_123133-1-1280x960.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139276 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/02\/25174957\/20220225_123133-1-1536x1152.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139276 1536w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/02\/25174957\/20220225_123133-1-150x113.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139276 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/02\/25174957\/20220225_123133-1-225x169.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139276 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 \">\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @lg:text-lg\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2022\/02\/25\/protest-against-sexual-assault-at-the-iss-the-institute-has-failed-to-protect-students\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current hocus:underline inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\tProtest against sexual assault at the ISS: &#8216;The institute has failed to protect students&#8217;\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2022-02-25\">25 February 2022<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tProtest\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>Your decision to join ISS was partly personal.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy previous partner passed away suddenly in 2012 \u2013 at the time we were living in The Hague, but I was working in Groningen. His death made me think about how fleeting life is: about where I want to go and what I want to have achieved by the end of my life. Because, as I saw, life can be over just like that.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThose questions gave me a sense of direction, including in my career. I wanted to keep working at a university and continue making a social impact. I saw a lot of overlap between my personal idealism and what ISS does, so everything came together quite nicely in the rectorship.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/quote\" class=\"align\" >\n\t\t<div class=\"\">\n\t\t\t<figure data-component=\"quote-with-author\" class=\"@container\">\n\t<blockquote class=\"text-md italic @2xl:text-xl @4xl:text-2xl text-purple\">\n\t\t\u2018I think there should be an interplay between the academic world and the practical world, and thus between academic and other kinds of knowledge\u2019\n\t<\/blockquote>\n\n\t<\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>Being socially relevant and making an impact seem to be the common threads in your career. Turning scientific knowledge into action is very important to you. For example, your research on women\u2019s reproductive health in India was translated into Kannada, a local Indian language, so that the local community could benefit from the findings. You also worked with a local NGO there to set up an education programme on health and nutrition for pregnant women. Where does this drive for social relevance come from?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI believe part of the reason is that I was a first-generation student. I grew up in a world outside academia and I understand that other skills, competences and knowledge are just as relevant as scientific knowledge. I think there should be an interplay between the academic world and the practical world, and thus between academic and other kinds of knowledge.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What was the university world like for you as a first-generation student?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cLearning a practical skill was the norm in our family, so the university environment was really new to me. For a long time I felt as if I were living in two different worlds that were difficult to combine. I sometimes wondered: does my family understand what I\u2019m doing? And actually, they didn\u2019t. That made me feel lonely at times.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere were so many things I just didn\u2019t have. For example, my niece has just graduated as a second-generation student. When she needed to revise her thesis, she called me and my first response was: \u2018You don\u2019t have to do everything on your own, you know.\u2019 That\u2019s the difference, I think. If your family has studied at university, there is always someone to help you, someone you can go to with questions. And I didn\u2019t have that.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/posts-list\" >\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"space-y-6 md:space-y-8\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"text-lg md:text-xl\">Read more <\/h2>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"grid items-strecth grid-cols-1 gap-2 md:gap-4 lg:gap-8\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"@container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post-small\" class=\"block-theme-sand  relative flex h-full bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\ttheme-mocha:bg-white! theme-violet:bg-white! theme-sand:bg-white!\n\tflex-row gap-4 @md:gap-8 p-4 @md:p-6\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"image:w-full image:aspect-square image:object-cover shrink-0 size-17.5 @sm:size-21.25 @md:size-30 @lg:size-40\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"325\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332\" class=\"attachment-square_lg size-square_lg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332 2560w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2-875x619.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2-1600x1131.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2-300x212.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2-1280x905.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2-1536x1086.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332 1536w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2-2048x1448.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332 2048w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2-150x106.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2023\/06\/12153509\/International-students-internationale-studenten-canceled_3000_Femke-Legue-scaled-2-225x159.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139332 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 \">\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @lg:text-lg\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2023\/06\/14\/new-law-for-intake-of-international-students-it-may-be-necessary-but-striking-this-tone-is-worrisome\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current hocus:underline inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\tNew law for intake of international students: &#8216;Necessary, but the tone is worrisome&#8217;\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2023-06-14\">14 June 2023<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tInternationalisation\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>National policy is becoming increasingly unfavourable for international students. Minister of Education, Robbert Dijkgraaf, wants fewer internationals and more Dutch students at Dutch universities. You ran an institute that was created for international students. What are your thoughts on this?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe do ourselves a disservice in the Netherlands if we no longer accept international students. The Netherlands is a small country with just 18 million people. Mumbai alone has a larger population than that. It\u2019s so easy to \u2018blame\u2019 international students for all sorts of issues, when in fact they contribute to diversity and the development of this country.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur alumni hold wonderful positions at various international organisations, from government bodies to NGOs. We have good relationships with many of them and sometimes we do joint research. All these alumni are true ambassadors for the Netherlands.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat also bothers me is the perception surrounding international students. Recently there was a segment on the news about problems with international students in Delft. Most international students are white students from Europe, but the footage immediately showed students of colour. I find this misleading and unfair; it creates unnecessary and unwarranted contradictions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Minister has also called for a recruitment freeze for international students. Does this put ISS at risk?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe lobbied against that plan because we were founded precisely to spread knowledge around the world, with a focus on the Global South. It took a long time, but this week we received a letter from the Ministry stating that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2023\/07\/06\/recruitment-freeze-on-international-students-does-not-apply-to-iss\/?noredirect=en_US\">recruitment stop doesn\u2019t apply to us<\/a>. So that\u2019s great news.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/posts-list\" >\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"space-y-6 md:space-y-8\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"text-lg md:text-xl\">Read more <\/h2>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"grid items-strecth grid-cols-1 gap-2 md:gap-4 lg:gap-8\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"@container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post-small\" class=\"block-theme-sand  relative flex h-full bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\ttheme-mocha:bg-white! theme-violet:bg-white! theme-sand:bg-white!\n\tflex-row gap-4 @md:gap-8 p-4 @md:p-6\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"image:w-full image:aspect-square image:object-cover shrink-0 size-17.5 @sm:size-21.25 @md:size-30 @lg:size-40\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"307\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/10\/30160140\/trap-welkom-ISS-International-institute-for-social-sciences-foto-Tamara-Harte.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139129\" class=\"attachment-square_lg size-square_lg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/10\/30160140\/trap-welkom-ISS-International-institute-for-social-sciences-foto-Tamara-Harte.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139129 2048w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/10\/30160140\/trap-welkom-ISS-International-institute-for-social-sciences-foto-Tamara-Harte-300x200.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139129 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/10\/30160140\/trap-welkom-ISS-International-institute-for-social-sciences-foto-Tamara-Harte-875x583.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139129 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/10\/30160140\/trap-welkom-ISS-International-institute-for-social-sciences-foto-Tamara-Harte-1280x853.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139129 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/10\/30160140\/trap-welkom-ISS-International-institute-for-social-sciences-foto-Tamara-Harte-1600x1066.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139129 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/10\/30160140\/trap-welkom-ISS-International-institute-for-social-sciences-foto-Tamara-Harte-150x100.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139129 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2017\/10\/30160140\/trap-welkom-ISS-International-institute-for-social-sciences-foto-Tamara-Harte-225x150.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139129 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 \">\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @lg:text-lg\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2023\/07\/06\/recruitment-freeze-on-international-students-does-not-apply-to-iss\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current hocus:underline inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\tRecruitment freeze on international students does not apply to ISS\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2023-07-06\">6 July 2023<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tInternationalisation\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>What are your feelings now as you\u2019re leaving the rectorship?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cMixed feelings. On the one hand, I can\u2019t wait for my sabbatical in the coming year. I\u2019m looking forward to being able to read books and take relaxing walks. On the other hand, I\u2019m really going to miss my team and colleagues.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/quote\" class=\"align\" >\n\t\t<div class=\"\">\n\t\t\t<figure data-component=\"quote-with-author\" class=\"@container\">\n\t<blockquote class=\"text-md italic @2xl:text-xl @4xl:text-2xl text-purple\">\n\t\t\u2018An important lesson that I\u2019ve learned over the last eight years: if something is urgent, you should sleep on it because the next morning you\u2019ll look at it differently\u2019\n\t<\/blockquote>\n\n\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"flex mt-6 image:rounded-full image:max-w-[4.375rem] gap-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"mt-[1px]\">&ndash;<\/span>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"block text-lg font-tiempos-headline\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tInge Hutter\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption>\n\t<\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>What will you not miss at all?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>She laughs: \u201cThe times of crisis, like the student protest. I enjoyed working on solutions to the problems, but of course I would have preferred everything to have been settled beforehand, without protests and media coverage. But that\u2019s all part of the growing pains you go through as an organisation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>How have you grown personally in the last eight years?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve learned so much about how to deal with other cultures, but also how to lead an organisation. I feel that I\u2019ve become calmer and wiser. I take time to calmly reflect in times of crisis.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAn important lesson that I\u2019ve learned over the last eight years: if something is urgent, you should sleep on it because the next morning you\u2019ll look at it differently.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/persons\" class=\"mt-6 md:mt-8 lg:mt-10\" >\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"sr-only\">De redactie<\/h2>\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"space-y-6\">\n\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"grid grid-cols-1 md:grid-cols-2 gap-4 md:gap-8 md:items-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"teaser-person\" class=\"relative flex gap-4 items-center md:gap-8\">\n\n\t\t\t<span class=\"image:rounded-full image:size-20 image:aspect-square image:object-cover md:image:size-36 shrink-0\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1600\" 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