{"id":115356,"date":"2020-07-02T13:54:44","date_gmt":"2020-07-02T11:54:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/?p=115356"},"modified":"2025-12-19T11:24:59","modified_gmt":"2025-12-19T10:24:59","slug":"dutch-corona-policy-causes-more-suffering-than-it-prevents","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2020\/07\/02\/dutch-corona-policy-causes-more-suffering-than-it-prevents\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;Dutch corona policy causes more suffering than it prevents&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The measures taken against the coronavirus may be more deadly than the virus itself. That is what psychologist Micha\u00e9la Schippers and clinical ethicist Erwin Kompanje say, who together wrote a hard-hitting article on the effects of the coronavirus policy. &#8220;The very people we wanted to protect have been weakened by this policy.&#8221;<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1600\" height=\"990\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131915\/em-oorlog-corona-leger-spuit-parade-eng-1600x990.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-115367\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131915\/em-oorlog-corona-leger-spuit-parade-eng-1600x990.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131915\/em-oorlog-corona-leger-spuit-parade-eng-300x186.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131915\/em-oorlog-corona-leger-spuit-parade-eng-875x542.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131915\/em-oorlog-corona-leger-spuit-parade-eng-1280x792.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131915\/em-oorlog-corona-leger-spuit-parade-eng-150x93.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131915\/em-oorlog-corona-leger-spuit-parade-eng-225x139.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 225w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131915\/em-oorlog-corona-leger-spuit-parade-eng.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 2000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><p data-component=\"image-credits\" class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-2 items-center text-base\">\n\t<span aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\">\n<path d=\"M19.5 5.25H16.9012L15.6234 3.33375C15.555 3.23114 15.4623 3.147 15.3535 3.08879C15.2448 3.03057 15.1233 3.00007 15 3H9C8.87665 3.00007 8.75522 3.03057 8.64648 3.08879C8.53773 3.147 8.44502 3.23114 8.37656 3.33375L7.09781 5.25H4.5C3.90326 5.25 3.33097 5.48705 2.90901 5.90901C2.48705 6.33097 2.25 6.90326 2.25 7.5V18C2.25 18.5967 2.48705 19.169 2.90901 19.591C3.33097 20.0129 3.90326 20.25 4.5 20.25H19.5C20.0967 20.25 20.669 20.0129 21.091 19.591C21.5129 19.169 21.75 18.5967 21.75 18V7.5C21.75 6.90326 21.5129 6.33097 21.091 5.90901C20.669 5.48705 20.0967 5.25 19.5 5.25ZM15.375 12.375C15.375 13.0425 15.1771 13.695 14.8062 14.25C14.4354 14.8051 13.9083 15.2376 13.2916 15.4931C12.6749 15.7485 11.9963 15.8154 11.3416 15.6852C10.6869 15.5549 10.0855 15.2335 9.61351 14.7615C9.14151 14.2895 8.82007 13.6881 8.68985 13.0334C8.55962 12.3787 8.62646 11.7001 8.88191 11.0834C9.13735 10.4667 9.56993 9.93964 10.125 9.56879C10.68 9.19794 11.3325 9 12 9C12.8951 9 13.7535 9.35558 14.3865 9.98851C15.0194 10.6214 15.375 11.4799 15.375 12.375Z\" fill=\"currentColor\"\/>\n<\/svg>\n<\/span>\n\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Image by:<\/span>\n\n\t\t\t<span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/persons\/bas-van-der-schot\/\" class=\"underline hocus:no-underline decoration-1 underline-offset-2\">Bas van der Schot<\/a>\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\t<div data-name=\"acf\/featured-text\" class=\"md:mt-6 p-4 md:p-6 lg:p-8 bg-sand-300 theme-sand:bg-white theme-violet:bg-white theme-mocha:bg-white wysiwyg *:last:mb-0!\" >\n\t\t<p>Micha\u00e9la Schippers is a psychologist and Professor of Behaviour &amp; Performance Management at the Rotterdam School of Management. She researches goal setting, group behaviour and personal happiness. Erwin Kompanje is a philosopher and clinical ethicist at Erasmus MC, which functioned as the epicentre of the Dutch corona strategy in recent months. Together they wrote the article <a href=\"https:\/\/repub.eur.nl\/pub\/127236\">For the Greater Good? The Devastating Ripple Effects of the Covid-19 Crisis<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>How did a clinical ethicist and a psychologist from the Faculty of Business Administration come together to write a paper on the measures being taken to combat Covid-19?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Erwin Kompanje replies: \u201cIt was her idea \u2013 she should explain.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Micha\u00e9la Schippers says: \u201cI was worried about the measures that were being taken. When people go into lockdown, that\u2019s intense, even if it only lasts two weeks. But it soon became apparent that it would last longer. People were terrified; vulnerable people had hardly any access to care or psychological support, and my mother was locked up in a nursing home. I thought: This is going to have huge negative consequences across all sorts of areas \u2013 social, psychological, and economic, not just public health. But around me there was scarcely any interest in criticism. People waved it away. I contacted Erwin after I read a story on his blog in which he also expressed his concerns.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cYou set up a policy to achieve a goal. Here the goal was to reduce the influx of patients into the healthcare system to prevent it from becoming overburdened, causing even more people to die. That seemed to work at first, and the curve flattened out a bit. But every remedy has side effects, even now. As an ethicist, it\u2019s my job to constantly weigh up the good and bad outcomes of a measure that has been introduced.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/posts-list\" >\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"space-y-6 md:space-y-8\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"text-lg md:text-xl\">Read more<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"grid items-strecth grid-cols-1 gap-2 md:gap-4 lg:gap-8\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"@container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post-small\" class=\"block-theme-sand  relative flex h-full bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\ttheme-mocha:bg-white! theme-violet:bg-white! theme-sand:bg-white!\n\tflex-row gap-4 @md:gap-8 p-4 @md:p-6\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"image:w-full image:aspect-square image:object-cover shrink-0 size-17.5 @sm:size-21.25 @md:size-30 @lg:size-40\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"363\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/06\/11155622\/em-angst-niveau-schreeuw-eng.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139215\" class=\"attachment-square_lg size-square_lg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/06\/11155622\/em-angst-niveau-schreeuw-eng.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139215 2000w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/06\/11155622\/em-angst-niveau-schreeuw-eng-300x237.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139215 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/06\/11155622\/em-angst-niveau-schreeuw-eng-875x690.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139215 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/06\/11155622\/em-angst-niveau-schreeuw-eng-1280x1010.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139215 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/06\/11155622\/em-angst-niveau-schreeuw-eng-1600x1262.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139215 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/06\/11155622\/em-angst-niveau-schreeuw-eng-150x118.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139215 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/06\/11155622\/em-angst-niveau-schreeuw-eng-225x178.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139215 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 \">\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @lg:text-lg\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2020\/06\/11\/a-fearful-society-is-emerging\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current hocus:underline inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\t\u2018A fearful society is emerging\u2019\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2020-06-11\">11 June 2020<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tThe Issue\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>In the piece you wrote together, you systematically outline the main adverse effects one by one. An economic crisis, increasing inequality, inhumane conditions in nursing homes. You also state that the measures are endangering public health. In what ways?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cWe have a natural resistance to all kinds of diseases because we have an immune system. It is generally quite capable of rendering all kinds of pathogens harmless. But we know that the workings of that immune system are influenced by the environment. Stress, for example, reduces your resilience, while meaningful social contact, touch and sunlight actually boost your immune system. During the lockdown period, social contact had to be kept to a minimum and people were unable to go outside and, as various <a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2020\/06\/11\/a-fearful-society-is-emerging\/?noredirect=en_US\">studies<\/a> have shown, they consequently suffered significantly from more stress and anxiety. You could say that healthy adults still had some freedom of movement, but vulnerable people and the elderly did not. What really provoked me at one stage were the reports that came out of nursing homes, care homes and hospices. People had been placed in isolation, were no longer allowed to see their families and loved ones and could no longer even sit in the garden.<\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cI call that \u2018the corona paradox,\u2019 meaning that we are actually weakening the people who we want to protect. This is reflected on all kinds of fronts. For example, the fact that people with other medical conditions \u2013 such as cancer, heart problems or neurological problems \u2013 have had less access to care in recent months because everyone was focused on COVID-19. And it has been calculated that the global economic slowdown may ultimately lead to as many as 100 million deaths. The lockdown was a drastic measure.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/posts-list\" >\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"space-y-6 md:space-y-8\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"text-lg md:text-xl\">Read more<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"grid items-strecth grid-cols-1 gap-2 md:gap-4 lg:gap-8\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"@container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post-small\" class=\"block-theme-sand  relative flex h-full bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\ttheme-mocha:bg-white! theme-violet:bg-white! theme-sand:bg-white!\n\tflex-row gap-4 @md:gap-8 p-4 @md:p-6\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"image:w-full image:aspect-square image:object-cover shrink-0 size-17.5 @sm:size-21.25 @md:size-30 @lg:size-40\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"307\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/25111422\/kwestie-corona-thea-hilhorst-EN-bas-van-der-schot.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139211\" class=\"attachment-square_lg size-square_lg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/25111422\/kwestie-corona-thea-hilhorst-EN-bas-van-der-schot.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139211 1731w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/25111422\/kwestie-corona-thea-hilhorst-EN-bas-van-der-schot-300x200.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139211 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/25111422\/kwestie-corona-thea-hilhorst-EN-bas-van-der-schot-875x583.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139211 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/25111422\/kwestie-corona-thea-hilhorst-EN-bas-van-der-schot-1280x853.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139211 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/25111422\/kwestie-corona-thea-hilhorst-EN-bas-van-der-schot-1600x1067.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139211 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/25111422\/kwestie-corona-thea-hilhorst-EN-bas-van-der-schot-150x100.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139211 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/25111422\/kwestie-corona-thea-hilhorst-EN-bas-van-der-schot-225x150.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139211 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 \">\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @lg:text-lg\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2020\/04\/29\/corona-magnifies-the-disparities-between-the-rich-and-poor\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current hocus:underline inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\t\u2018Corona magnifies the disparities between the rich and poor\u2019\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2020-04-29\">29 April 2020<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tThe Issue\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>Let\u2019s go back to March for a moment. The intensive care units were filling up and we had to deal with an exponential increase in the number of patients. Erasmus MC was the epicentre of the Dutch corona battle with a press conference almost daily. It was not an inconceivable scenario that the patients would be dying in the corridors of hospitals within a few weeks. A major intervention was absolutely essential, wasn\u2019t it?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cIn the beginning there was definitely something serious happening. It started in Brabant, where the first patients with COVID-19 turned up. We only knew what the situations were in China and Italy and had no idea what was about to happen here. But we are a pretty well-organised country, aren\u2019t we? In the hospitals, we soon realised that the patients would never be lying in the corridors here, not even when the maximum IC capacity was reached. By that time, it had become clear that there were still two thousand beds available in Germany, where the peak had already passed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u2019m having a little trouble with the suggestion that we were worried about nothing.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cYou didn\u2019t hear us say that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cNo.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cThere was definitely a problem. At one point I even taught my son \u2013 he was four at the time, and has just turned five \u2013 how to call the emergency number. I had heard about a woman in America whose child had sat next to her for two nights even though she had already died. That was an absolute nightmare scenario. But we learned about the virus very quickly. That, for instance, the average age of people who died in the Netherlands was 82.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/quote\" class=\"align\" >\n\t\t<div class=\"\">\n\t\t\t<figure data-component=\"quote-with-author\" class=\"@container\">\n\t<blockquote class=\"text-md italic @2xl:text-xl @4xl:text-2xl text-purple\">\n\t\t\u2018We live under the illusion of immortality. But at some point, we are going to die of something\u2019\n\t<\/blockquote>\n\n\t<\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>An estimated 9,000 people have died in the Netherlands. The official figure is 6,000. Have they all been elderly patients?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cOf the more than 6,000 patients counted so far, only 15 were younger than 40. By way of comparison, 2,700 people in that age bracket die each year in the Netherlands from another cause, such as a traffic accident or cancer. Out of the seventeen million citizens, approximately 46 percent are under 40. Based on 15 deaths, there is a 0.00019 percent chance that you will die of COVID-19 if you are in that age group. Statistically speaking, that\u2019s negligible.<\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cI just read that young people overestimate their chances of dying from COVID-19 by five hundred percent.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cThe vast majority of the fatalities are elderly people and many \u2013 in 70 percent of cases at any rate \u2013 were suffering from underlying conditions, as in comorbidity. COVID-19 affected almost exclusively elderly people and those with a failing immune system.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/posts-list\" >\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"space-y-6 md:space-y-8\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"text-lg md:text-xl\">Read more<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"grid items-strecth grid-cols-1 gap-2 md:gap-4 lg:gap-8\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"@container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post-small\" class=\"block-theme-sand  relative flex h-full bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\ttheme-mocha:bg-white! theme-violet:bg-white! theme-sand:bg-white!\n\tflex-row gap-4 @md:gap-8 p-4 @md:p-6\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"image:w-full image:aspect-square image:object-cover shrink-0 size-17.5 @sm:size-21.25 @md:size-30 @lg:size-40\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"347\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/09115742\/kwestie-corona-app-Bas-van-der-Schot-2.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139209\" class=\"attachment-square_lg size-square_lg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/09115742\/kwestie-corona-app-Bas-van-der-Schot-2.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139209 1628w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/09115742\/kwestie-corona-app-Bas-van-der-Schot-2-300x226.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139209 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/09115742\/kwestie-corona-app-Bas-van-der-Schot-2-875x660.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139209 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/09115742\/kwestie-corona-app-Bas-van-der-Schot-2-1280x966.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139209 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/09115742\/kwestie-corona-app-Bas-van-der-Schot-2-1600x1207.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139209 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/09115742\/kwestie-corona-app-Bas-van-der-Schot-2-150x113.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139209 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/04\/09115742\/kwestie-corona-app-Bas-van-der-Schot-2-225x170.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139209 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 \">\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @lg:text-lg\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2020\/04\/09\/we-will-increasingly-often-be-confronted-with-the-question-as-to-how-much-we-are-willing-to-pay-for-each-year-we-add-to-a-persons-life\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current hocus:underline inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\t\u2018We will increasingly often be confronted with what we are willing to pay for each year we add to a person\u2019s life\u2019\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2020-04-09\">9 April 2020<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tThe Issue\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>So they would have died within the coming year anyway?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cYes, chances are that they would have. Every autumn, thousands of people also die of influenza -the seasonal flu -in care homes and nursing homes. As you get older, your immune system starts to deteriorate. That\u2019s why old people are more susceptible to all sorts of disorders. Most men die aged around 70-75, women around 80-85. A few exceptions live to be 90, and even fewer to 100, but then it\u2019s over and done with. At one point I heard someone on the radio say that his mother, who had just died of COVID-19 when she was 84, could have made it to 94 if only the measures had been stricter. Yet, during that ten-year period, there really are still a number of bumps ahead for someone of that age. We live under the illusion of immortality. But at some point, we are going to die of something. That\u2019s also not such a bad thing, because frankly, in the meantime a lot of children are being born.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;69e6f6c0722ff&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"69e6f6c0722ff\" class=\"wp-block-image size-full wp-lightbox-container\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1419\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131946\/em-isolatie-verpleeghuis-corona.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-115368\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131946\/em-isolatie-verpleeghuis-corona.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 2000w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131946\/em-isolatie-verpleeghuis-corona-300x213.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131946\/em-isolatie-verpleeghuis-corona-875x621.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131946\/em-isolatie-verpleeghuis-corona-1280x908.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131946\/em-isolatie-verpleeghuis-corona-1600x1135.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131946\/em-isolatie-verpleeghuis-corona-150x106.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/07\/02131946\/em-isolatie-verpleeghuis-corona-225x160.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139216 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\taria-label=\"Enlarge\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.imageButtonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.imageButtonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><p data-component=\"image-credits\" class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-2 items-center text-base\">\n\t<span aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg width=\"24\" height=\"24\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\">\n<path d=\"M19.5 5.25H16.9012L15.6234 3.33375C15.555 3.23114 15.4623 3.147 15.3535 3.08879C15.2448 3.03057 15.1233 3.00007 15 3H9C8.87665 3.00007 8.75522 3.03057 8.64648 3.08879C8.53773 3.147 8.44502 3.23114 8.37656 3.33375L7.09781 5.25H4.5C3.90326 5.25 3.33097 5.48705 2.90901 5.90901C2.48705 6.33097 2.25 6.90326 2.25 7.5V18C2.25 18.5967 2.48705 19.169 2.90901 19.591C3.33097 20.0129 3.90326 20.25 4.5 20.25H19.5C20.0967 20.25 20.669 20.0129 21.091 19.591C21.5129 19.169 21.75 18.5967 21.75 18V7.5C21.75 6.90326 21.5129 6.33097 21.091 5.90901C20.669 5.48705 20.0967 5.25 19.5 5.25ZM15.375 12.375C15.375 13.0425 15.1771 13.695 14.8062 14.25C14.4354 14.8051 13.9083 15.2376 13.2916 15.4931C12.6749 15.7485 11.9963 15.8154 11.3416 15.6852C10.6869 15.5549 10.0855 15.2335 9.61351 14.7615C9.14151 14.2895 8.82007 13.6881 8.68985 13.0334C8.55962 12.3787 8.62646 11.7001 8.88191 11.0834C9.13735 10.4667 9.56993 9.93964 10.125 9.56879C10.68 9.19794 11.3325 9 12 9C12.8951 9 13.7535 9.35558 14.3865 9.98851C15.0194 10.6214 15.375 11.4799 15.375 12.375Z\" fill=\"currentColor\"\/>\n<\/svg>\n<\/span>\n\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Image by:<\/span>\n\n\t\t\t<span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/persons\/bas-van-der-schot\/\" class=\"underline hocus:no-underline decoration-1 underline-offset-2\">Bas van der Schot<\/a>\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure><p><strong>Micha\u00e9la, in an interview you gave, the term mass hysteria came up. What did you mean by that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cThe choice was made very clearly for a certain slant: we are at \u2018\u2019war\u2019\u2019 with an \u2018unknown enemy\u2019. There were daily updates on the number of \u2018casualties\u2019, there was talk of healthcare staff on the \u2018front line\u2019. At first there was still some dissent, even in the mainstream media. There was talk that COVID-19 was not much more serious than an average flu outbreak, for one thing, but they were quickly stifled. Apparently, there was only one course of action to be taken. The editor-in-chief of de Volkskrant literally admitted in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gids.tv\/video\/222895\/volkskrant-hoofdredacteur-pieter-klok-tegengeluid-publiceren-geen-noodzaak-video\">radio interview<\/a> that some information never made it into the newspaper.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Surely, there must also be something wonderful about a society that is able to do this?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cThe great thing about human beings is that an individual is willing to make sacrifices for the greater good. However, the sacrifices that are now being made are pointless. The problem is that people are not willing to hear that. Cognitive dissonance sets in. They tend to think: I have gone bankrupt, that must be for the greater good. 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What surprises me is that intelligent people don\u2019t realise that all sense of proportion is lost here. Apparently, people do not see much beyond their own circle.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Who is to blame for this?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cI think a lot of damage has been caused by the media. Every day people ask me: Do you know how many people have died today? But I never kept track of that, not of any illness, by the way. The relentless flow of information has generated a lot of anxiety and unrest.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cThe media have played a very damaging role. There is always less room for dissidents in a crisis situation. In our article we refer to a number of classic social experiments \u2013 by Asch and Milgram and the Stanford Prison Experiment \u2013 and it shows time and again that people are very keen to obey. That can be explained, by the way. In prehistoric times it was often a case of either fight or flight. Someone who wanted to seriously discuss the policy at some point might prove to be deadly. But that group behaviour has become dysfunctional in this case. Look at what we have done. And it\u2019s not over yet. It\u2019s not for nothing that I <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=B5WgR6pYmko\">demonstrated<\/a> against something for the first time in my life. I wrote a letter to Mark Rutte. These are things I\u2019d never done before. It takes up an incredible amount of time of my time and I would have preferred to continue writing papers, but I don\u2019t want my son to grow up in a kind of police state.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is that really what you\u2019re afraid of?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cI don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve read the new bill, but the plan is to suspend all civil liberties indefinitely.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Are you also afraid of that Erwin?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cWell, perhaps I see things slightly more detached. But in this kind of metre-and-a-half society, I do see a lot of negative consequences for the psychosocial development of young people in particular. We are social animals.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/quote\" class=\"align\" >\n\t\t<div class=\"\">\n\t\t\t<figure data-component=\"quote-with-author\" class=\"@container\">\n\t<blockquote class=\"text-md italic @2xl:text-xl @4xl:text-2xl text-purple\">\n\t\t\u2018In this kind of metre-and-a-half society, I do see a lot of negative consequences for the psychosocial development\u2019\n\t<\/blockquote>\n\n\t<\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>Your critical analysis is received with enthusiasm in various quarters, including among groups who have a deep-seated distrust of the government and science. Interviews with you have been quoted by the anti-vaccination movement and conspiracy thinkers. Does that bother you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cThat is the risk of giving interviews. They\u2019re cut and pasted, and there\u2019s always a caption that\u2019s overly exaggerated. Then all of a sudden you turn up amongst the anti-vaxxers, whom I have absolutely nothing to do with. Well, evidently, that\u2019s my fate.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cI think we both have a very nuanced story to tell. But what\u2019s happening now is on such a scale that people are seeking a way to deal with it. One of the potential forms of coping is conspiracy thinking, even though there doesn\u2019t necessarily have to be any malicious intent behind the draconian corona policy. It could very well have happened by accident as a kind of bandwagon effect. We saw what happened in China and thought: We should do that, too. So everyone went into lockdown.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/posts-list\" >\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"space-y-6 md:space-y-8\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"text-lg md:text-xl\">Lees meer<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"grid items-strecth grid-cols-1 gap-2 md:gap-4 lg:gap-8\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"@container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post-small\" class=\"block-theme-sand  relative flex h-full bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\ttheme-mocha:bg-white! theme-violet:bg-white! theme-sand:bg-white!\n\tflex-row gap-4 @md:gap-8 p-4 @md:p-6\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"image:w-full image:aspect-square image:object-cover shrink-0 size-17.5 @sm:size-21.25 @md:size-30 @lg:size-40\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"352\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/03\/20170907\/Bas_economie_corona.png?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139205\" class=\"attachment-square_lg size-square_lg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/03\/20170907\/Bas_economie_corona.png?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139205 2000w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/03\/20170907\/Bas_economie_corona-300x230.png?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139205 300w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/03\/20170907\/Bas_economie_corona-875x669.png?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139205 875w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/03\/20170907\/Bas_economie_corona-1280x979.png?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139205 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/03\/20170907\/Bas_economie_corona-1600x1224.png?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139205 1600w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/03\/20170907\/Bas_economie_corona-150x115.png?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139205 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2020\/03\/20170907\/Bas_economie_corona-225x172.png?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139205 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 \">\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @lg:text-lg\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2020\/03\/20\/the-coronavirus-outbreak-is-forcing-us-to-embrace-a-new-economic-system\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current hocus:underline inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\t\u2018The coronavirus outbreak is forcing us to embrace a new economic system\u2019\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2020-03-20\">20 March 2020<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tThe Issue\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>You say it could very well have happened by accident. Does this mean that you are keeping an open mind on the possibility that there is definitely malicious intent at play?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cI am absolutely not a conspiracy thinker, yet I cannot rule it out. Look, a conspiracy theory is by definition an unproven theory. As long as it is unproven, then I say somebody else should figure that out. I can still explain everything without there having to be a master plan behind it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cI find it all so uninteresting, those conspiracies. I am a scientist; I want to be able to prove things. The first thing I did when I wanted to understand something about the situation in nursing and care homes was to delve into the scientific literature on isolation and quarantine and their effects on the psyche, physical health and the immune system. That is my foundation. I have no affinity at all with conspiracies, zilch.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/quote\" class=\"align\" >\n\t\t<div class=\"\">\n\t\t\t<figure data-component=\"quote-with-author\" class=\"@container\">\n\t<blockquote class=\"text-md italic @2xl:text-xl @4xl:text-2xl text-purple\">\n\t\t\u2018I think we need to start thinking about solidarity in some other way\u2019\n\t<\/blockquote>\n\n\t<\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<p><strong>There has been much criticism of the fact that virologists initially determined policy. Should this be done differently next time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cThere are a number of techniques for getting around groupthink. What they have in common is that you organise reflexivity and bring various perspectives together. Let another team, one with philosophers, economists or behavioural scientists, take a shot at your plan.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cEarly on, it was logical that we listened to the virologists. They understand best how such a virus behaves. But if halfway through it turns out that the number of hospital admissions is decreasing, you also have to look at <a href=\"https:\/\/papers.ssrn.com\/sol3\/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3599939\">other perspectives<\/a>. That has not happened enough, at least not in the mainstream media.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>In the meantime, the obligatory easing of measures has been announced. Where do we go from here?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MS: \u201cAs far as I am concerned, the measures should be phased out even faster and replaced by evidence-based measures. And a delta plan must be put in place to address all the problems that have now arisen. Not only an economic support package, but also to remedy the damage inflicted upon the mental and physical health of the Dutch.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>EK: \u201cWe have required enormous sacrifices from a large group of people to protect a small one. I think we need to start thinking about solidarity in some other way. We now know that a large percentage of those who became seriously ill from this virus already had another health condition. Many of them are diseases caused by an unhealthy lifestyle, such as obesity or diabetes. We have all shown solidarity. I think we can expect this group to change some things in their unhealthy habits to make any ensuing pandemic somewhat milder. I am quite willing to say: Lifestyle diseases belong to us as human beings, but fungi, bacteria and viruses like the coronavirus are part of it, too.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\t\n\t<div data-name=\"acf\/persons\" class=\"mt-6 md:mt-8 lg:mt-10\" >\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"sr-only\">De redactie<\/h2>\n\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"space-y-6\">\n\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"grid grid-cols-1 md:grid-cols-2 gap-4 md:gap-8 md:items-center\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"teaser-person\" class=\"relative flex gap-4 items-center md:gap-8\">\n\n\t\t\t<span class=\"image:rounded-full image:size-20 image:aspect-square image:object-cover md:image:size-36 shrink-0\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"567\" height=\"567\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2015\/12\/19102430\/Geert-Maarse2.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139265\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"\" 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https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/05\/23145741\/Studentenhuisvesting-huur-tekort-studentenwoningen-renting-studentenhuis-woningnood-Stock-illustratie-Migle-Alonderyte-2048x1448.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139286 2048w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/05\/23145741\/Studentenhuisvesting-huur-tekort-studentenwoningen-renting-studentenhuis-woningnood-Stock-illustratie-Migle-Alonderyte-150x106.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139286 150w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2022\/05\/23145741\/Studentenhuisvesting-huur-tekort-studentenwoningen-renting-studentenhuis-woningnood-Stock-illustratie-Migle-Alonderyte-225x159.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1766139286 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 \">\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @lg:text-lg\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2026\/04\/20\/kabinet-wil-meer-tijdelijke-huurcontracten-voor-studenten\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current hocus:underline inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\tCabinet wants more temporary rental contracts for students\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2026-04-20\">20 April 2026<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tHousing\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<li class=\"@container\">\n\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post\" class=\"block-theme-sand hidden lg:flex h-full relative flex bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\tflex-col @xl:flex-row\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"relative image:w-full image:aspect-video image:object-cover shrink-0 w-full @xl:w-1\/2\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/metro_dicht_voorschoterlaan_april2026_2__esther-dijkstra-1280x720.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776684112\" class=\"attachment-video_xl size-video_xl\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/metro_dicht_voorschoterlaan_april2026_2__esther-dijkstra-1280x720.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776684112 1280w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/metro_dicht_voorschoterlaan_april2026_2__esther-dijkstra-500x282.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776684112 500w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/metro_dicht_voorschoterlaan_april2026_2__esther-dijkstra-832x468.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776684112 832w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 p-4 @md:p-8 @xl:p-8 \">\n\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @sm:text-xl @md:text-2xl @xl:text-2xl\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2026\/04\/20\/langere-reistijden-naar-campus-woudestein-door-werkzaamheden-metrostations\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current underline-offset-2 decoration-2 hocus:underline @md:decoration-3 @xl:decoration-4 inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\tLonger travel times to Woudestein campus due to metro maintenance work\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2026-04-20\">20 April 2026<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tStudent life\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post-small\" class=\"block-theme-sand lg:hidden relative flex h-full bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\ttheme-mocha:bg-white! theme-violet:bg-white! theme-sand:bg-white!\n\tflex-row gap-4 @md:gap-8 p-4 @md:p-6\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"image:w-full image:aspect-square image:object-cover shrink-0 size-17.5 @sm:size-21.25 @md:size-30 @lg:size-40\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"460\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/metro_dicht_voorschoterlaan_april2026_2__esther-dijkstra-460x460.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776684112\" class=\"attachment-square_lg size-square_lg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/metro_dicht_voorschoterlaan_april2026_2__esther-dijkstra-460x460.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776684112 460w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/metro_dicht_voorschoterlaan_april2026_2__esther-dijkstra-115x115.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776684112 115w, https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/metro_dicht_voorschoterlaan_april2026_2__esther-dijkstra-230x230.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776684112 230w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"flex flex-col gap-2 md:gap-4 \">\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"text-md @lg:text-lg\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/2026\/04\/20\/langere-reistijden-naar-campus-woudestein-door-werkzaamheden-metrostations\/\" class=\"absolute-link text-current hocus:underline inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\tLonger travel times to Woudestein campus due to metro maintenance work\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2026-04-20\">20 April 2026<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tStudent life\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<li class=\"@container\">\n\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post\" class=\"block-theme-sand hidden lg:flex h-full relative flex bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\tflex-col @xl:flex-row\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"relative image:w-full image:aspect-video image:object-cover shrink-0 w-full @xl:w-1\/2\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/lege-campus_empty_polak_avond-nacht_1_april2026_breadie_nhat-minh-bui-1280x720.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776685276\" 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class=\"absolute-link text-current underline-offset-2 decoration-2 hocus:underline @md:decoration-3 @xl:decoration-4 inline-block\">\n\t\t\t\tUniversity Council wants to extend opening hours of Polak during evenings and weekends\n\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-wrap gap-4 items-center\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"sr-only\">Gepubliceerd op:<\/span>\n\t\t\t<time class=\"text-sm font-soehne text-neutral-900\" datetime=\"2026-04-20\">20 April 2026<\/time>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<ul data-component=\"list-badges\" class=\"flex items-center gap-2 flex-wrap\" aria-label=\"Geplaatst in categorie\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<li>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div data-component=\"badge\" class=\"block-theme-violet:bg-purple font-soehne font-bold text-sm bg-brown-600 block-theme-violet:bg-purple text-white py-[2px] px-2\">\n\t\t\t\t\tCampus\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n<div data-component=\"teaser-post-small\" class=\"block-theme-sand lg:hidden relative flex h-full bg-sand-300\n\tblock-theme-violet:bg-white block-theme-violet:text-purple block-theme-mocha:bg-sand-500 block-theme-mocha:text-brown\n\tblock-theme-sand:bg-sand-300 block-theme-sand:text-neutral-900\n\tblock-theme-violet:outline-purple-100 block-theme-violet:outline-1 block-theme-violet:outline-t-0\n\ttheme-mocha:bg-white! theme-violet:bg-white! theme-sand:bg-white!\n\tflex-row gap-4 @md:gap-8 p-4 @md:p-6\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"image:w-full image:aspect-square image:object-cover shrink-0 size-17.5 @sm:size-21.25 @md:size-30 @lg:size-40\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"460\" height=\"460\" src=\"https:\/\/www.erasmusmagazine.nl\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/lege-campus_empty_polak_avond-nacht_1_april2026_breadie_nhat-minh-bui-460x460.jpg?image-crop-positioner-ts=1776685276\" class=\"attachment-square_lg size-square_lg\" alt=\"\" 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